Chief Seattle[1854] The Original
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Web Publication by Mountain Man Graphics, Australia in the Southern Spring of 1995
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I therefore requested information from various parties in confirmation of this view, and if possible, supportive documentation. In the interim period this further information has been received. For example, someone who runs a surf shop advised me that they have a poster on their wall with the following quotation .....
In order to completely open concerning this "revelation" I will simply present the E-Mail information flow surrounding this matter as it was received and in the sequence it was received - culminating in the "Alternate Statement", and leave it up to the reader to come to his or her own conclusion in this matter, if one is warranted.
It is a cosmic tapestry upon which a terrestrial web is woven. Truth always has the property of rising from the baser sensitivities and making itself known to the wise .... this has not changed since ancient times. I therefore place value in both these statements which I have published - otherwise they would not be part of this small island of Inner Space known as Mountain Man Graphics.
Whether the inspiration of Chief Seattle in 1854, or whether the inspiration of one Ted Perry, Hollywood screenwriter, in the early '70's, or whether the inspiration of another, or both, or neither, or a host of other ancestors through which any and all "Life-View Statements" have evolved .... to my sensibility both these statements are worthy of note.
And it is for this wisdom manifest in both accounts, that I have published both accounts.
And I would like to take this opportunity to thank all these folk referenced in the Electonic-Mail-Trail which is presented, without further commentary, in the remained of this web document.
The man who actually wrote that speech is a Hollywood screenwriter. He has *admitted* that he was assigned to look up the speech made by Seattle, but it was simply not very inspiring or significant in any way, and it certainly did not say anything about ecology. So he did what any Hollywood screenwriter would do: he wrote a *fictional* version of the speech, not reflecting what a Native American's attitude would be, but what a late 20th century "green" person would think.
Of course, I sent of a reply to Jim, and his answer follows ....
On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, Mountain Man wrote:
> >The man who actually wrote that speech is a Hollywood screenwriter.
> And his name was Longfellow right?
> And he also wrote the "Song of Hiawatha" ....
No, his name is Ted Perry and he wrote the speech in the late 70's for a movie called "Home" which was produced in the US by the Southern Baptist Convention. He had no idea that anyone would consider his work anything other than fiction, and he has spent quite a bit of time in the past few years trying to set the record straight. So I was wrong in calling it a hoax, it was just a misattribution that has gained a life of its own.
While the sentiment expressed in the speech is quite admirable, it is not made more so by being attributed to an Aboriginal leader. Furthermore, I think Mr. Perry deserves credit for the fine speech he has written, and if you attribute it to Seathl, you deny Mr. Perry his just credit. I realize you did not know this, a lot of people don't, and poor Mr. Perry has been beating his head against the wall trying to set the record straight, and meantime he's been unjustly villified for "falsifying" the historical record.
I'm emailing you some supporting documentation I found on the net, as well as the real, original Seathl speech, which says little or nothing about ecology. Perhaps you could put up the real Seathl speech alongside the correctly attributed Ted Perry speech. Just a thought.
This section is from the document '/Distribution list log/History/log.started.930627'.
>From HISTORY@ibm.gwdg.de Thu Aug 19 16:58:00 1993
Since Ted Perry is a colleague of mine at Middlebury College, I
followed the Seattle story as it broke in the New York Times a year or
so ago. Prof. Perry has never tried to maintain that the speech was
anything but a fictional version of what Seattle MIGHT have said;
but various publishers and users of the speech decided that it would
sell better if it was represented as containing the actual words
of the chief. The original version (that is, the original Perry
version) was indeed done as a film or a TV script for the Southern
Baptist convention (Perry is a film historian and critic of some note).
If I remember correctly the stories in the TIMES about the whole
affair, insofar as there is any record of the real Chief Seattle's
speech, it suggests that he spoke not about the environment, but
rather about simlarities and differences between Christianity (he was
a Roman Catholic) and Native American religion.
And, as Jeffrey Russell has recently shown, the men and women of the
European middle ages never believed in a flat earth; but the
philosophes of the 18th cent. thought that the middle ages should
have had such a belief, so they conveniently invented the version.
Nick Clifford, Middlebury College
>From HISTORY@ibm.gwdg.de Wed Aug 25 15:20:06 1993
In article <1993Aug15.211040.28183@emma.ruc.dk>, sune@emma.ruc.dk (Sune Johansson) writes:
The general tone of this posting is relatively conspiratorial. Perhaps
someone should contact Ted Perry. National Public Radio did about two
years ago and interviewed him for All Things Considered (before it switched
to American Public Radio). Perry wrote it for a film, yes, and the name
was not suppressed as some conspiracy, but I would assume for the same reason
"Long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away" was not followed by a credit.
Perry himself was shocked to see it later, I believe for the first time
in the Whole Earth catalog, with his name attached.
No one who ever looked into the question thought that Chief Seattle
wrote the piece. He talks of the thousands of buffalo he had
seen shot by white men from their trains. Chief Seattle never saw the
trains, never saw the great herds of buffalo of the central plains,
and ergo never saw thousands shot from the trains. Tracking down the
actual author, however, was not obvious, and the event awaited, I believe,
the NPR people. They started at Washington's State Historical Society
where they were assured that the citation was false, but they
could not say who had written it. From there, I don't know.
I have been collecting Seattle apocryphana in my head and the spread
of this false speech is amazing. Michael Buhler, a Swiss, has
translated it into French as a song (Ainsi parlait un veil indien).
The Newberry Library, a relatively scholarly and serious institution,
has done a (very nice) t-shirt. Of course greeting cards and bumper
stickers.
Tom Lambert - lambert
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 18:53:00 PDT
/* Written 4:41 pm Sep 5, 1993 by gates in igc:iearn.fp */
by Roberta Frye Watt, Binsford & Mort, Portland Ore., 1934.
The text was produced by one "Dr." Smith, an early settler in
Seattle, who took notes as Seattle spoke in the Suquamish dialect
of central Puget sound Salish (Lushootseed), and created this
text in English from those notes. Smith insisted that his version
"contained none of the grace and elegance of the original" The
last two sentences of the text here given have been considered for
many years to have been part of the original, but are now known to
have been added by an early 20th C. historian and ethnographic
writer, A. C. Ballard.
There are many versions and excerpts from this text, including a
wholly fraudulent version mentioning buffalo and the
interconnectedness of all life which was written by a Hollywood
screenwriter in the late 70's and which has gained wide currency.
The bogus version has been quoted by individuals as prominent and
diverse as former U.S. President Bush and Joseph Campbell.
At the time this speech was made it was commonly believed by
whites and as well by many Indians that Native americas would
inevitalby become extinct.
My words are like the stars that never change.
The white chief says that Big Chief at Washington sends us greetings of friendship and goodwill.
There was a time when our people covered the land as the waves of a wind-ruffled sea cover its shell-paved floor,
Youth is impulsive.
Our good father in Washington--for I presume he is now our father as well as yours,
But can that ever be?
Our people are ebbing away like a rapidly receding tide that will never return.
We never saw Him.
To us the ashes of our ancestors are sacred and their resting place is hallowed ground.
The Red Man could never comprehend or remember it.
Your dead cease to love you and the land of their nativity
Our dead never forget this beautiful world that gave them being.
Day and night cannot dwell together.
It matters little where we pass the remnant of our days.
A few more moon,
But why should I mourn at the untimely fate of my people?
We will ponder your proposition and when we decide we will let you know.
Even the rocks, which seem to be dumb and dead as the swelter in the sun along the silent shore,
And when the last Red Man shall have perished,
Let him be just and deal kindly with my people, for the dead are not powerless.
"The Song of Hiawatha" ... H.W.Longfellow {1855}
If you have reached this point, and have not already done so, I would
greatly recommend a small click to fetch the entire contents of a book
published in 1911 by Dr Charles Alexander Eastman, born Ohiyesa, in 1954
of the Sioux, entitled The Soul of the Indian.
You will not be disappointed in its reading and contemplation.
May the Age of Information dawn within,
Peace.
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 93 21:58:00 EST
From: Nicholas Clifford
Subject: Re: Chief Seattle
To: Multiple Recipients of
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This section is from the document '/Distribution list log/History/log.started.930627'.
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 93 15:20:06 GMT
From: lambert@UNI2A.UNIGE.CH
Subject: Re: Chief Seattle
To: Multiple Recipients of
>
> DID CHIEF SEATTLE SPEAK?
>
> Chief Seattle (17xx -1866) from the Suqvamish tribe, was called so by
> the white, and became worldfamous under this name, because they used
> his name for the town Seattle, Washington, USA.
> Since the beginning of the nineteen seventies, a speech, which had
> been made by him, has been a popular ingridient in the environment-
> debate. The speech critizise the white mans lack of culture, called
> civilization, especially our ruthless exploitation of nature.
> Later on it has been proofed, that the speech was written as a films-
> cript by a certain Ted Perry. The producer of this film "Home" was
> Southern Baptist Convention, who suppressed the authors name to make
> the impression more authentic! Background to The "Alternate Statement" of Chief Seattle ...
To: Mountain Man
Subject: The original Chief Seathl speech
Subject: CHIEF SEATTLE'S 1854 ORATION
Original Sender: Gary Trujillo
Mailing List: NATIVE-L (native-l@gnosys.svle.ma.us)
/* ---------- "CHIEF SEATTLE'S 1854 ORATION" ---------- */AUTHENTIC TEXT OF CHIEF SEATTLE'S TREATY ORATION 1854
Source: "Four Wagons West,"
Originally published in the Seattle Sunday Star, Oct. 29 1887.The "Alternate Statement" of Chief Seattle ...
Yonder sky that has wept tears of compassion upon my people for
centuries untold,
and which to us appears changeless and eternal,
may change.
Today is fair. Tomorrow it may be overcast with
clouds.
Whatever Seattle says,
the great chief at Washington can rely upon with as much certainty as he can upon the return of the sun or the seasons.
This is kind of him for we know he has little need of our friendship in return.
His people are many. They are like the grass that covers vast prairies.
My people are few. They resemble the scattering trees of a storm-swept plain.
The great, and I presume -- good, White Chief sends us word
that he wishes to buy our land but is willing to allow us enough to live comfortably.
This indeed appears just, even generous,
for the Red Man no longer has rights that he need respect,
and the offer may be wise, also, as we are no longer in need of an extensive country.
but that time long since passed away with the greatness of tribes that are now but a mournful memory.
I will not dwell on, nor mourn over, our untimely decay, nor reproach my paleface brothers with hastening it,
as we too may have been somewhat to blame.
When our young men grow angry at some real or imaginary wrong, and disfigure their faces with black paint,
it denotes that their hearts are black, and that they are often cruel and relentless,
and our old men and old women are unable to restrain them.
Thus it has ever been.
Thus it was when the white man began to push our forefathers ever westward.
But let us hope that the hostilities between us may never return.
We would have everything to lose and nothing to gain.
Revenge by young men is considered gain, even at the cost of their own lives,
but old men who stay at home in times of war, and mothers who have sons to lose, know better.
since King George has moved his boundaries further north--our great and good father, I say,
sends us word that if we do as he desires he will protect us.
His brave warriors will be to us a bristling wall of strength, and his wonderful ships of war will fill our harbors,
so that our ancient enemies far to the northward -- the Haidas and Tsimshians,
will cease to frighten our women, children, and old men.
He in reality he will be our father and we his children.
Your God is not our God!
Your God loves your people and hates mine!
He folds his strong protecting arms lovingly about the paleface
and leads him by the hand as a father leads an infant son.
But, He has forsaken His Red children, if they really are His.
Our God, the Great Spirit, seems also to have forsaken us.
Your God makes your people wax stronger every day.
Soon they will fill all the land.
The white man's God cannot love our people or He would protect them.
They seem to be orphans who can look nowhere for help.
How then can we be brothers?
How can your God become our God and renew our prosperity and awaken in us dreams of returning greatness?
If we have a common Heavenly Father He must be partial, for He came to His paleface children.
He gave you laws but had no word for His red children
whose teeming multitudes once filled this vast continent as stars fill the firmament.
No; we are two distinct races with separate origins and separate destinies.
There is little in common between us.
You wander far from the graves of your ancestors and seemingly without regret.
Your religion was written upon tablets of stone by the iron finger of your God so that you could not forget.
Our religion is the traditions of our ancestors --
the dreams of our old men, given them in solemn hours of the night by the Great Spirit;
and the visions of our sachems, and is written in the hearts of our people.
as soon as they pass the portals of the tomb and wander away beyond the stars.
They are soon forgotten and never return.
They still love its verdant valleys, its murmuring rivers, its magnificent mountains,
sequestered vales and verdant lined lakes and bays,
and ever yearn in tender fond affection over the lonely hearted living,
and often return from the happy hunting ground to visit, guide, console, and comfort them.
The Red Man has ever fled the approach of the White Man, as the morning mist flees before the morning sun.
However, your proposition seems fair
and I think that my people will accept it and will retire to the reservation you offer them.
Then we will dwell apart in peace, for the words of the Great White Chief
seem to be the words of nature speaking to my people out of dense darkness.
They will not be many.
The Indian's night promises to be dark.
Not a single star of hope hovers above his horizon.
Sad-voiced winds moan in the distance.
Grim fate seems to be on the Red Man's trail,
and wherever he will hear the approaching footsteps of his fell destroyer and prepare stolidly to meet his doom,
as does the wounded doe that hears the approaching footsteps of the hunter.
a few more winters,
and not one of the descendants of the mighty hosts that once moved over this broad land
or lived in happy homes, protected by the Great Spirit,
will remain to mourn over the graves of a people once more powerful and hopeful than yours.
Tribe follows tribe, and nation follows nation, like the waves of the sea.
It is the order of nature, and regret is useless.
Your time of decay may be distant, but it will surely come,
for even the White Man whose God walked and talked with him as friend to friend,
cannot be exempt from the common destiny.
We may be brothers after all.
We will see.
But should we accept it, I here and now make this condition that we will not be denied the privilege
without molestation of visiting at any time the tombs of our ancestors, friends, and children.
Every part of this soil is sacred in the estimation of my people.
Every hillside, every valley, every plain and grove,
has been hallowed by some sad or happy event in days long vanished.
thrill with memories of stirring events connected with the lives of my people,
and the very dust upon which you now stand responds more lovingly to their footsteps than yours,
because it is rich with the blood of our ancestors,
and our bare feet are conscious of the sympathetic touch.
Our departed braves, fond mothers, glad, happy hearted maidens, and even the little children
who lived here and rejoiced here for a brief season,
will love these somber solitudes and at eventide they greet shadowy returning spirits.
and the memory of my tribe shall have become a myth among the White Men,
these shores will swarm with the invisible dead of my tribe,
and when your children's children think themselves alone in the field, the store, the shop, upon the highway,
or in the silence of the pathless woods, they will not be alone.
In all the earth there is no place dedicated to solitude.
At night when the streets of your cities and villages are silent and you think them deserted,
they will throng with the returning hosts that once filled them and still love this beautiful land.
The White Man will never be alone.
Dead, did I say? - There is no death, only a change of worlds.Further Native American Links
and fasted in the forest,
Not for greater skill in hunting,
Not for greater craft in fishing,
Not for triumphs in the battle,
And renown among the warriors,
But for profit of the people,
For advantage of the nations.
And may your feet find their way to Journey's End.PRF Brown
BCSLS {Freshwater}
Mountain Man Graphics, Australia.
Chief Seattle
[1854]
The Original
Statement Web Publication by Mountain Man Graphics, Australia in the Southern Spring of 1995