Scientists and atheists like to discredit and ridicule the Vedic culture and literatures as mere products of some superstitious aborigines. But what kind of aborigines would write in a language so perfect and complex in composition, grammar and meter, that it takes linguistics scholars more than ten years of study to somewhat master the grammar? Even the international scientific community has recognized Sanskrit to be one of the oldest languages known to man and the probable source of all modern languages.

What kind of aborigines would, more than 5000 years [See Editorial Note] ago, formulate divisions of time ranging from 1/10,000th of a second to the total universal life span, based on the movement of atoms? (Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.11.1-12)

What kind of aborigines would give accurate descriptions of all the planets in our solar system, many of which "modern science" only discovered recently? What to speak of the many other planets in this universe they describe which are unknown to "modern science." (Srimad-Bhagavatam, Surya-siddhanta, all Maha-Puranas)

What kind of aborigines would be able to sum up and categorize all existing species of life throughout the universe according to the development of consciousness, including 400,000 human species? (Padma Purana)

How is it, that the Vedic scriptures (the so-called product of an aboriginal society) contain systematic and highly advanced information about topics such as:

Medical art

The Ayur-veda and Garuda Purana contain diagnostics and *natural* remedies for all known ailments. A good Ayur-vedic doctor can diagnose any disease merely by checking the pulse in three places on the wrist. Ayur-vedic clinics are found in most countries of the world nowadays, and highly successful and appreciated.

Music

The Vedic musical science is one of the most sophisticated and complex in the world, where the meter and tones are linked to specific moods and times of the day (ragas). It was very well known to the musicians of those days what effect certain sound vibrations have on humans. Gosh, you don't know Ravi Shankar...?

Politics

The political structure of the Vedic civilization allowed citizens to live in peaceful and prosperous circumstances under the rule of a saintly king. The varnashrama system guaranteed everyone to be perfectly engaged in the duty that matched his qualities and to slowly advance in spiritual understanding, resulting in liberation from the bondage of the material world. Crime was rare and punished properly.

The Manu-samhita deals with all aspects of law and order. In Vedic times one emperor ruled the whole world. All continents were known and regular trade and exchanges took place. (Mahabharata, Srimad-Bhagavatam, various Puranas)

Architecture

The construction of temples and other buildings was carried out according to scriptural injunctions (Silpa-sastra). Just visit some of the remnants of Vedic architectural splendor (Kanci-puram, Mahabali-puram, Jagannatha-puri, to name a few). You will find all of them constructed from solid stone, having decorated walls inlaid with gemstones (most of them now stolen by muslim invaders and the English), air conditioning systems based on running water, perfect acoustics, etc.

The stone carving art speaks for itself. Descriptions from the Puranas reveal an interior opulence unobtainable to the average modern man, with furniture of precious metals and gemstones, and indoor swimming pools. Accounts of the reality of this can be found in the writings of the Moguls and other muslim invaders (1100-1500 AD), and the travel diary of India traveller Tavernier (1700 AD) -- who brought the Hope and Koh-i-noor diamonds to Europe).

Warfare

In Vedic times only the soldiers of the Ksatriya caste engaged in warfare. Citizens were never involved. Battles took place on remote battle fields and according to strict rules and regulations. To give some examples; one was never to be attacked when not facing the nemy, when in a state of confusion, or when fleeing the battle.

Battles were only fought during daytime. Besides that the skills and weapons of the Vedic soldiers were much more powerful and enhanced than at present. Extremely accurate nuclear weapons were known and used (Mahabharata, Srimad-Bhagavatam), as well as a variety of other weapons based on sound, air turbulence, and water. Most of the advanced weapons were controlled and directed by subtle sound vibrations. The Dhanur-veda part of the Vedic scriptures dealt with warfare.

Art

Also drama, sculpturing, poetry, dance and other arts followed scriptural injunctions, as all knowledge comes from the Vedas. The sculptural decorations of temples, Bharat-natyam and other systems of Indian dance, and the more than 300,000 verses of the Vedic scriptures themselves are the living proof that Vedic art was extremely elevated. And those 300,000 verses are the 7% that is left of the total of Vedic knowledge...

Besides these, the Vedic literatures deal with many other subject matters, including spiritual topics, economic development, sense enjoyment, and psychology.

So, how could some ancient aboriginal society know about this? How could they anyway know about reading and writing, and then still describe atoms and nuclear power? How could they describe the orbits of planets their size and eclipses, and the size of the universe? And if they could write so accurately on such subject matters, why would they so elaborately describe the soul and God if they wouldn't exist?

If Krishna and the Vedic culture are merely the products of some hindu imagination, then how come that a person like Oppenheimer honored them so much by studying the Bhagavad-gita? How come that the Vedic literature -- especially the Bhagavad-gita -- was studied and praised by personalities like Einstein, Schopenhauer, Kant, Hegel, Emerson, Thoreau, Schweizer, and many other scientists and scholars much more important than any of the persons frequenting this group? How come that most of the most influential scientists *aren't* atheists? What is your authority? Are you above God?

Do you really think that these respected and learned gentlemen were all fools that had nothing better to do than wasting their precious time on reading the scriptures of some uncivilized aborigines?

Or could it be that the Vedic scriptures indeed constitute knowledge given to us by the Supreme Lord Himself at the beginning of this material creation, and carefully handed down through a Vedic tradition of masters and disciples, all of which you know nothing of?

You want to prove the existence of God and religion to be fake, but cheating can only be understood in relation to its original. That is were you fail. You do not know anything about the original.

As an atheist you would be more credible if you would set aside some time to sincerely study that which you oppose. You do not know what you oppose. First study the Vedic scripture on their own authority, and not in terms of your prejudice, which is merely a result of your faith in limited and imperfect speculations and experiments (theories based on theories based on theories, add infinitum...).

Varnadi

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These articles are available at the end of some extracts from (therefore) the oldest literature on the planet - The Rig Veda